MedWorm provides a medical RSS filtering service. Over 6000 RSS medical sources are combined and output via different filters. This feed contains the latest medical blog items that have been tagged with 'health relationship'. Sat, 03 Sep 2011 02:39:03 +0100 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=4841815&cid=t_374939_131_f&fid=34989&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.b5media.com%2F%7Er%2Fb5media%2FGeneticsHealth%2F%7E3%2FCKG8HSHIXJs%2F Yesterday, a Chinese woman, whose fiancé reportedly called off their upcoming wedding, tried to commit suicide by jumping out of a high rise building. She had dressed herself in her bridal gown and crawled out of a top floor window, only to be caught by rescuers who already had arrived on scene, and dragged back inside to safety. As the image above, and video below, can attest to, this is a harrowing, emotionally-traumatic scene to watch. But the first thing these dramatic photos brought to mind was the link between emotional and mental health and our romantic relationships. They’re so interconnected that it’s almost as if one cannot exist without the other. Many of us are happier when we are in love, and as in this poor woman’s case, sometimes we even believe there&#821... Genetics and Health blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=4841815 Thu, 19 May 2011 18:27:33 +0100 4841815 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=4753891&cid=t_374939_131_f&fid=34989&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.b5media.com%2F%7Er%2Fb5media%2FGeneticsHealth%2F%7E3%2FBVk7sxxWYy0%2F At Blisstree, we’re all about trying to get happier and healthier in order to live better, and we hope to help you do the same every day. But, of course, it’s not always easy to know how to make that intangible dream of happiness a reality. And even if you do know how to do it, it’s pretty challenging to keep all the parts of your life in balance so that often-elusive health and happiness last as long as possible. So I asked M.D., board-certified psychiatrist, and Blisstree contributor Dale Archer to give us ten steps we can take to promote and achieve lasting happiness in our own lives (and these are tactics he actually shares with his patients). So what are we waiting for? Let’s get happy — and healthy. 1. Exercise. Even if you’re not a gym rat, walkin... Genetics and Health blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=4753891 Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:50:20 +0100 4753891 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=4753893&cid=t_374939_131_f&fid=34989&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.b5media.com%2F%7Er%2Fb5media%2FGeneticsHealth%2F%7E3%2FU9532KvDsKg%2F The Walkers are the worst communicators ever. If you’ve never had the dubious pleasure of seeing an episode of ABC’s Brothers & Sisters, featuring the Walker family’s antics and dramas, then you’ll just have to take my word for it. Odd that a big family who spends so much damn time on their cell phones talking to each other (often on irritating three-way calls) has such chronic difficulty actually saying anything important to one another, particularly when the timing really matters. Last night’s episode was a perfect TV example of how poor communication skills can really do a number on relationships in real life. Justin wasn’t being straight with Nora (his mom) about two major life events (involving her ex-boyfriend and an unknown grandchild), and, f... Genetics and Health blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=4753893 Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:45:34 +0100 4753893 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=4720027&cid=t_374939_131_f&fid=34989&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.b5media.com%2F%7Er%2Fb5media%2FGeneticsHealth%2F%7E3%2F2FyTW2jI-7U%2F It’s April 15 and you haven’t given your taxes a thought. Don’t panic. (Actually, if you haven’t done anything about your taxes at this point, do panic a little. Though this year you have until Monday, April 18 at 11:59 p.m. to file them. Looks like you may be pulling an all-nighter this weekend.) While I’m certainly not advocating that you ever blow off your taxes (though filing for an extension is fair game), you shouldn’t let the annual hullabaloo around tax season stress you out so much so that you don’t recognize yourself. To a certain degree, it’s a choice not to allow tax time to turn you into a stress bunny. And most of this high-stakes, high-anxiety April money drama is perpetuated by the mainstream media, anyway, and since when do y... Genetics and Health blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=4720027 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 18:03:14 +0100 4720027 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=4684631&cid=t_374939_131_f&fid=34989&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.b5media.com%2F%7Er%2Fb5media%2FGeneticsHealth%2F%7E3%2FZU3FASlNUms%2F One of my favorite Seinfeld episodes is the one where George Costanza explains to Jerry what will happen if his worlds collide. Elaine has invited Susan, George’s girlfriend, to a show. It was Jerry’s idea. And George can’t believe how stupid Jerry was to suggest that, because if Susan becomes part of the inner circle, his worlds would definitely collide and, well, blow up. George (to Jerry): Well, that was a really stupid thing. You know what’s going to happen now? Jerry: Worlds collide. George: Yeah. Jerry: Because this world is your sanctuary and if that world comes into contact with this world… George: Yes. It blows up! So if you know that, why did you tell Elaine that? Jerry: I didn’t know. Kramer just told me about the worlds. George: You couldn’t figure out the wor... Genetics and Health blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=4684631 Tue, 05 Apr 2011 13:15:42 +0100 4684631 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=4677006&cid=t_374939_131_f&fid=34989&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.b5media.com%2F%7Er%2Fb5media%2FGeneticsHealth%2F%7E3%2F3lNZokr2qqw%2F Last week I ran a post called An Open Marriage Can Save Your Relationship, which featured a Q&A with and advice from psychotherapist and sexpert Dr. Julie Elledge, who maintained that truly healthy open marriages are possible. But even though I published the post (and asked her the questions), I have to disagree with the good doctor about one thing and say: You open marriage will never work. And here’s why. I am married. But that doesn’t mean I think that lifelong monogamy is the only normal, healthy, feasible option out there. I don’t. In fact, on its worst day, lifelong monogamy seems pretty damn unsustainable; on its best day, it’s an utterly bizarre concept. Still, in most “unopened” (that is, not open) marriages, like mine, the monogamy issue is... Genetics and Health blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=4677006 Mon, 04 Apr 2011 15:23:41 +0100 4677006 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=4653489&cid=t_374939_131_f&fid=34989&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.b5media.com%2F%7Er%2Fb5media%2FGeneticsHealth%2F%7E3%2FGSTCqCXB59s%2F How do you work when you’re depressed? I get that question a lot. Here’s the honest answer: I can’t. At least at my rock bottom, I wasn’t able to work. My efforts failed miserably because my self-confidence was way below sea level – so all it did was bring on more frustration. I remember sitting down at my computer every morning, making the same effort, hoping that if I led with the body then the mind would follow. But the mind wasn’t interested in going anywhere, and was rather pissed off that I would even try. I performed this ritual for months on end. Butt to the chair. Crying at the computer. Then one day my (then) two-year-old poured a cup of apple juice over my keyboard. The hard drive made a funky noise, and the screen looked like a black-and-white film from the 70s ... Genetics and Health blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=4653489 Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:00:22 +0100 4653489 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=4642854&cid=t_374939_131_f&fid=34989&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.b5media.com%2F%7Er%2Fb5media%2FGeneticsHealth%2F%7E3%2FDVDUXiqk6Yw%2F Listening is one of the simplest and yet most difficult things to do well and consistently. We often hear or use the phrase “listening is key,” but most of the time we regard the act of listening as an essential part of the communication process, as a simple courtesy, or possibly as a means to getting what we want. But how often do we really consider that the art and practice of listening may have actual and long-lasting mental benefits for us? Not nearly enough, in my opinion. So I asked Dr. Dale Archer, an M.D. and a clinical psychiatrist, for his take on the connection between learning to listen well and better emotional health – and got him to give us eight tips on how to make that important connection last: How is being a good listener beneficial to our state of mental h... Genetics and Health blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=4642854 Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:43:15 +0100 4642854 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=4560490&cid=t_374939_131_f&fid=34989&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.b5media.com%2F%7Er%2Fb5media%2FGeneticsHealth%2F%7E3%2F-WJqXOs4a2w%2F photo: Thinkstock In case you were worried, there’s a big difference between being alone and being lonely. According to The Boston Globe, an ongoing Harvard study has researched the benefits of solitude in teens and young adults, and finds that people who are alone form stronger memories of experiences, are capable of more empathy towards others, and think more critically. The Globe mentions how much more focused you are on a movie when you see it in a theater alone, as opposed to with another person or a group of friends. The memory of the experience is often stronger, and stays with you for a longer period of time. (This couldn’t be more true for me; I saw The Shawshank Redemption and Saving Private Ryan alone in the theater, and, to this day, those memories of both are vivid and... Genetics and Health blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=4560490 Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:18:38 +0100 4560490 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=4536148&cid=t_374939_111_f&fid=36048&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.b5media.com%2F%7Er%2Fb5media%2FAHeartyLife%2F%7E3%2FF75_wy2FKG0%2F Therese Borchard This is author Therese Borchard’s second post for Blisstree; she’ll be blogging for us on a weekly basis about all kinds of mental health, depression, and therapy issues. Find her debut post here. Have a question for Therese? Leave it in our comments section, below. Maybe it’s because I just turned 40 over the weekend, or maybe it’s because I was asked to be a “relationship expert” for a dating website a few days ago (LOL), or that TV writer Tracy McMillan’s recent HuffPo piece “Why You’re Not Married” got under my skin, but I can’t stop thinking about how I ended up married with two kids when I was the one labeled in college “most likely to become an old maid” because 1. I preferred a tiny closet of a room for me and only me over a roomy ... A Hearty Life blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=4536148 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:26:25 +0100 4536148 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=4482917&cid=t_374939_131_f&fid=34989&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.b5media.com%2F%7Er%2Fb5media%2FGeneticsHealth%2F%7E3%2Fa7R9Z_R-DJM%2F "The Boys From Brazil" (1978) It was simple: My husband and I were just supposed to go someplace warm for a long weekend in March. We had gone away over the Christmas holidays, but the trip was a total bust, thanks to a raging case of bronchitis I developed on the Eurostar from London to Paris. (I know, I know — luxury problems. But you try being 16 weeks pregnant and quarantined in a tiny rental apartment for four days with an incessant cough, a measly four TV channels (in French, obviously), zero medication allowed, and a dying laptop battery — no charger adapter, either). Merde. On the bright side? I had plenty of Vicks-VapoRub-scented tissues thanks to the well-stocked pharmacy on the corner. Our “babymoon” (a loathesome term, in my opinion) had morphe... Genetics and Health blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=4482917 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 20:09:48 +0100 4482917 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=4399739&cid=t_374939_131_f&fid=34989&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.b5media.com%2F%7Er%2Fb5media%2FGeneticsHealth%2F%7E3%2F6nk3-YcS4ck%2F Dr. Robi Ludwig So many of you have commented on Marye Audet’s post from 2008, The Celibate Marriage: Living Without Sex, that we thought it was high time for a follow-up. So I picked out six of your most intriguing, disturbing, and thought-provoking comments on the subject, and asked renowned psychotherapist Dr. Robi Ludwig (you’ve probably seen her on TV), to weigh in on them. Of course, despite being a relationship expert, Dr. Robi can’t diagnose anyone’s relationship problems (be they physical, emotional, or sexual) via the Web, but in this case, her advice about celibacy in marriage is pretty spot-on. See what you think, and then sound off (anonymously, if you like) in our comments section, below. 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, 87 days ago I have been s... Genetics and Health blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=4399739 Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:55:39 +0100 4399739 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=4343273&cid=t_374939_131_f&fid=34989&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.b5media.com%2F%7Er%2Fb5media%2FGeneticsHealth%2F%7E3%2F4FE6UEhL7Cs%2F photo: Thinkstock My husband and I are in couples counseling. We’ve been married for almost a decade, and have been seeing a therapist together for three of those years. The twist? We don’t hate each other. We don’t fight any more than most couples. And we’re not separated or contemplating divorce. In short, our marriage really isn’t in trouble. So if there’s nothing wrong, why on earth have we been dropping our hard-earned dollars once a week (or sometimes every other week) on a pricey clinical psychologist with a PhD who specializes in solving relationship issues between committed couples? Because our marriage really isn’t in trouble, that’s why. And we’d like to keep it that way. Most people probably think of couples counseling as a ... Genetics and Health blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=4343273 Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:15:32 +0100 4343273 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=4305029&cid=t_374939_131_f&fid=34989&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.b5media.com%2F%7Er%2Fb5media%2FGeneticsHealth%2F%7E3%2F7yB059TZPGo%2F photo: Thinkstock Judging from the almost 2,000 comments our readers have made on Sara Ost’s 2007 post How to Get Over a Broken Heart, we gather that this subject is pretty important to you. But, while I appreciate much of what Sara wrote in her post, I have a slightly different take on the whole “how to get over a broken heart” thing. Personally, I don’t believe that exercise, ice cream, breakup music, hanging out with friends, or avocados will help end your heartache. They may, however, make you feel physically or mentally better as a person (albeit temporarily), but they won’t lessen your emotional pain or help you get over the actual person. Unfortunately, nothing will. Except, perhaps, the one intangible thing that you wish you could speed up, just this o... Genetics and Health blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=4305029 Mon, 03 Jan 2011 18:08:42 +0100 4305029 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=4245478&cid=t_374939_131_f&fid=34989&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.b5media.com%2F%7Er%2Fb5media%2FGeneticsHealth%2F%7E3%2FWShIrZ9AvfQ%2F Not looking forward to the holidays so much? You may not be such a terrible person after all. TV commercials show perfect, ecstatically happy families next to a new car with a red bow around it, and we’re bombarded with these absurd images around this time of year. But the reality is that many of us have crazy dads or sisters we don’t talk to or a stepmom we, well, hate. And that’s actually okay. The more we face up to the truth that most families are far from perfect, the more we can embrace ours, however dysfunctional. Then we’ll be able to better cope with the holidays, and perhaps even enjoy them a little. “It’s important to recognize that families are complex and unique,” says Noelle Nelson, a licensed clinical psychologist and author of nine books. “You have to fl... Genetics and Health blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=4245478 Thu, 09 Dec 2010 20:44:30 +0100 4245478 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=1544111&cid=t_374939_158_f&fid=36043&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.thirdage.com%2F%3Fp%3D1362 Jacqueline MarcellAuthor: Elder Rage www.ElderRage.comHost: Coping With Caregiving Radio www.wsRadio.com/CopingWithCaregiving Jacqueline’s lecture CD: 2.5/hr or 14 hr w/12 Eldercare Experts! WELCOME BACK ALL MY CAREGIVERS! Always screen your calls and never pick up when your elder calls with a nasty demanding tone. If you never give in to moaning and groaning, they will eventually stop trying [...] (Source: ThirdAge Blog) ThirdAge Blog blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=1544111 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 06:24:49 +0100 1544111 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=1494648&cid=t_374939_158_f&fid=36043&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.thirdage.com%2F%3Fp%3D1343 Jacqueline MarcellAuthor: Elder Rage www.ElderRage.comHost: Coping With Caregiving Radio www.wsRadio.com/CopingWithCaregiving Jacqueline’s lecture CD: 2.5/hr or 14 hr w/12 Eldercare Experts! WELCOME BACK ALL MY CAREGIVERS! My mother was an absolute 10 when she was young-and I don’t mind saying that I don’t hold a candle to her. One fateful day as she walked down the street [...] (Source: ThirdAge Blog) ThirdAge Blog blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=1494648 Thu, 05 Jun 2008 08:57:29 +0100 1494648 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=1396461&cid=t_374939_158_f&fid=36043&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.thirdage.com%2F%3Fp%3D1310 Come visit me at www.MenAlive.com.      As those of you who have followed my work are aware, depression runs in my family. My father tried to commit suicide when I was five. Though he didn’t die, he was hospitalized for many years and our lives were never the same. I’m sure my experiences have something to [...] (Source: ThirdAge Blog) ThirdAge Blog blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=1396461 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:17:48 +0100 1396461 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=1349935&cid=t_374939_158_f&fid=36043&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.thirdage.com%2F%3Fp%3D1295 Author Elder Rage www.ElderRage.com Host Coping With Caregiving Radio Show www.wsRadio.com/CopingWithCaregiving Jacqueline’s Seminar is available on CD: 2.5 hrs or 14 hrs w/12 Eldercare Experts WELCOME BACK ALL MY CAREGIVERS—Tell us your story! For eleven years I pleaded with my elderly father to allow a caregiver to help him with my ailing mother, but after [...] (Source: ThirdAge Blog) ThirdAge Blog blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=1349935 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:14:03 +0100 1349935 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=1327637&cid=t_374939_158_f&fid=36043&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.thirdage.com%2F%3Fp%3D1287 Dr. Mitchell is co-author of Fat is Not Your Fate, Eat to Stay Young and I’d Kill for a Cookie. Listen to her weekly Internet Show on AM580 WDBO http://580wdbo.com/healthcenter/ Visit her websites: http://www.susanmitchell.org and http://www.fatisnotyourfate.com Eating disorders and alcohol abuse are a disturbing and potentially fatal combination. Could it be happening in the life of someone [...] (Source: ThirdAge Blog) ThirdAge Blog blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=1327637 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:00:22 +0100 1327637 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=1307940&cid=t_374939_158_f&fid=36043&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.thirdage.com%2F%3Fp%3D1280 The real story isn’t about Eliot Spitzer and the prostitute, but about how shocked everybody was – those big looks of surprise on everyone’s faces.  Even the most know-it-all media pundits admit they didn’t know what to make of it, even his enemies were speechless, his allies utterly taken aback.   The reason everybody body’s had [...] (Source: ThirdAge Blog) ThirdAge Blog blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=1307940 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:23:44 +0100 1307940 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=1140228&cid=t_374939_158_f&fid=36043&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.thirdage.com%2F%3Fp%3D1215 Dr. Mitchell is co-author of Fat is Not Your Fate, Eat to Stay Young and I’d Kill for a Cookie. Listen to her weekly Internet Show on AM580 WDBO http://580wdbo.com/healthcenter/ Visit her websites: http://www.susanmitchell.org and http://www.fatisnotyourfate.com We’re almost two weeks into the New Year already. Can you believe it? Diet and nutrition are topics on many of [...] (Source: ThirdAge Blog) ThirdAge Blog blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=1140228 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:00:58 +0100 1140228 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=1073305&cid=t_374939_158_f&fid=36043&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.thirdage.com%2F%3Fp%3D1185 Author Elder Rage www.ElderRage.com Host Coping With Caregiving Radio Show www.wsRadio.com/CopingWithCaregiving Jacqueline’s Lecture on CD; 12 Experts; 14/hrs. of Help–ASK ME! WELCOME BACK ALL MY CAREGIVERS—Tell us your story! I have to stop listening to "Dr. Nora" while I am driving, as I am going to get in an accident from my jaw hitting the steering [...] (Source: ThirdAge Blog) ThirdAge Blog blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=1073305 Thu, 06 Dec 2007 06:20:45 +0100 1073305 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=964795&cid=t_374939_158_f&fid=36043&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.thirdage.com%2F%3Fp%3D1147 Come visit me at www.MenAlive.com and receive your free e-newsletter.      As many of you know, Carlin and I attribute a good deal of the success we have in our marriage to the fact that I have been involved in a men’s group for many years and she has been involved with a woman’s group. In [...] (Source: ThirdAge Blog) ThirdAge Blog blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=964795 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:38:56 +0100 964795 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=950990&cid=t_374939_158_f&fid=36043&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.thirdage.com%2F%3Fp%3D1142 Come visit me at www.MenAlive.com. Drop me a note at Jed@MenAlive.com. I’d like to hear from you. In a previous article I asked the question: Are you attractive enough to find and keep a mate? my purpose in discussing these powerful, genetically driven desires that cause men to be attracted to certain women and women to be [...] (Source: ThirdAge Blog) ThirdAge Blog blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=950990 Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:00:17 +0100 950990 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=935428&cid=t_374939_158_f&fid=36043&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.thirdage.com%2F%3Fp%3D1138 To receive your free e-newsletter on free e-booklet come visit me at www.MenAlive.com No matter how strong, independent, and secure a woman might be, when her man tells her he’s leaving it can be devastating. Here’s a letter that is typical of many I receive from women in this situation: My life has been turned upside down.  [...] (Source: ThirdAge Blog) ThirdAge Blog blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=935428 Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:17:09 +0100 935428 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=914585&cid=t_374939_158_f&fid=36043&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.thirdage.com%2F%3Fp%3D1133 I invite you to visit me at www.MenAlive.com and get your free e-newsletter on sex, love, and relationships. Every woman and man dreads to hear these words: "I love you, but I’m not in love with you." We all worry about keeping our partner interested in us and concerned that they might stray. This isn’t a [...] (Source: ThirdAge Blog) ThirdAge Blog blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=914585 Sat, 29 Sep 2007 17:20:45 +0100 914585 http://www.medworm.com/index.php?rid=856977&cid=t_374939_158_f&fid=36043&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.thirdage.com%2F%3Fp%3D1111 Please come visit me at www.MenAlive.com and receive your free e-booklet on relationships. It may be that I’m biased about the troubles couples are having these days. I am, after all, a psychotherapist and marriage and family counselor. People come to me every day who are suffering because they aren’t happy in their relationship. So I [...] (Source: ThirdAge Blog) ThirdAge Blog blogs http://www.medworm.com/rss/comments.php?id=856977 Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:00:51 +0100 856977